Qhawe didn't own Channel S club'
MBABANE – Channel S TV Station boss, Qhawe Mamba had nothing to do with the proposed Channel S Club as it was founded and owned by the members.
This was revealed by Nomsa Dlamini who was a member of the proposed club. Dlamini was leading evidence in the E17 million fraud case against Mamba. She was led in evidence by attorney Simanga Mamba who is representing Mamba in the case.
The state is represented by Advocate Francois Joubert and the case is heard by Judge Phillip Levinsohn.
"The members owned the Channel S Club as they had created it," she said.
"Where was Qhawe when you formed the club?" Mamba asked.
"He was not present, we created it on our own," Dlamini said.
Dlamini said they only met at Channel S because they had requested for office space at the station. She added that the club was led by a select committee that was chosen by the members. "Qhawe was not part of the membership or the committee," she said.
Surprise Motsa and Doreen Mdluli were designated as the leadership of the club by Dlamini. She said there were also other interim committee members she could not remember and insisted that the two were not the only leaders of the club.
She further said Mamba was not a member and had nothing to do with the club other than the provision of his television station for the club’s advertisements to be aired.
The judge wanted to know from Dlamini if she was sure that Mamba did not have anything to do with the station and neither was he a member of the Channel S Club, and Dlamini said she was sure.
"Can you affirmatively say that the first accused was not a member of the club and had nothing to do with the club?" Judge Levinsohn asked. "Yes, I am very sure my Lord," she said.
However, evidence was led to quash Dlamini’s allegations. Advocate Joubert produced minutes of a meeting from which Mamba was elected the Chair of the interim committee of the Channel S club. The evidence led further revealed that Mamba was a member of the proposed scheme. Dlamini changed tunes and said she meant the Ngcamphalala led committee as she was not present at the meeting in which Mamba was so appointed.
Advocate Joubert also had a letter in which Mamba made communication to the Central Bank about the proposed scheme. It was revealed that the Channel S Club was In fact, Mamba’s brain child as he had a great input in its operations. "The way you led evidence, you have pioneered to protect Qhawe in the case throug-hout your evidence," Advocate Joubert said.
"That is not correct, I was not protecting the accused, I was just explaining about what I know and the cooperation," Dlamini said
"Talking about what you know, do you know Mr Mamba personally?" Judge Levinsohn asked.
"I only know him from TV and that he is the Director of Channel S, not personally," she said.
On the other hand, the committee’s chairperson, Elphas Ngcamphalala defended the use of several of Mamba’s bank accounts for the Channel S club. He said Mamba’s account was used in the interim, pending the opening of the club’s account. The club’s account was opened immediately thereafter and the members allegedly ceased using Mamba’s account.
He also said Mamba’s account was often used because the account he held with Nedbank Swaziland had internet banking which facilitated the payments of benefits to all the members. He illustrated that the simplest method of transferring funds to different account holders was to transfer it to Mamba’s account, as payment was made with ease there from.
Ngcamphalala also said some of the people who were around Mhlume also wanted to join the club before there was a Nedbank branch in Mhlume. To enhance the intending members, the committee asked to use Mamba’s account he held with First National Bank for use by Mhlume members, which led to several of Mamba’s accounts used for and by the club.
I have no problem with someone taking my money to buy cars
MBABANE – Nomsa Dlamini stunned the court when she said she would not mind if someone was to take her money and buy himself luxurious cars.
Dlamini said this during a cross- examination. She was being questioned by Crown counsel Advocate Francois Joubert in the Qhawe Mamba E17 million fraud case. "If the first accused used your money to pay his children’s school fees, would you be happy?" Joubert asked.
"I would have been happy if he borrowed it on interest basis as it would have boosted the club," Dlamini said.
"I mean if he were to take your money, without necessarily borrowing it, and pay for his children’s school fees or buy luxurious cars?" asked the Advocate.
"I would have been happy if he took the money and bought luxurious cars," she said.
"Are you serious, are you sure you would be happy?" Judge Levinsohn interjected.
"Yes my Lord," she said.
Dlamini added that every member was free to use the money as he/she pleased. She also said she would have been happy because she would have arrested the committee which she chose to safeguard her money and would not have gone for Mamba since he did not have anything to do with the club.
The case continues on Monday May 28, 2012. Mamba is expected to call more witnesses for his defence.
‘Channel S club tried importing rice’
MBABANE – The Channel S proposed Credit and Savings Scheme also tried importing rice to sustain the club.
This was because the joining process was once halted for a while as the committee tried to strategise the methods of payment for the members. "We even thought of importing rice, and when we tried it, we realised that the Dollar was getting stronger and stronger," Ngcamphalala said.
Judge Levinsohn was concerned about this statement from Ngcamphalala. "Are you saying that the club was not sustainable and could not provide for the members as per your promises?" His Lordship asked.
In response, Ngcamphalala said the club had not fallen but the committee was looking at long term basis and trying to avoid problems in the long run.
"We also sold tickets for raffle draws and this sustained us," he said. As a result, he said the club’s members were then paid on a weekly basis and the raffle draws were conducted every Saturday.
Club and TV station were in a partnership
MBABANE – Channel S television station and the proposed Channel S Club were actually in a partnership.
This was according to the proposed Channel S Credit and Savings Scheme’s Chairperson, Elphas Ngcamphalala. He said he was present from the inception of the club as he had been to a meeting where the initiative to open the Scheme was discussed in detail. He was allegedly sent there by his wife who was a member of the then SDL.
SDL had been closed by the Central Bank for allegations of money laundering and that it was labelled a pyramid scheme. According to Ngcamphalala, the SDL membership was of the view of establishing something of that nature that would be run and regulated locally.
Ngcamphalala said the TV station was a partner in as far as it had to advertise or market the club and the club had to pay the station for the advertisements. "In a partnership, there is an agreement and we found that the interim committee had agreed on 60/40 per cent in favour of the club, in terms of sharing the proceeds.
The club’s chairperson added that with his committee in office, this partnership agreement was reviewed. The new arrangement was on 83.4/16.6 per cent in favour of the club. He handed over the agreement to the court as part of his evidence.
Ngcamphalala conceded that the club was not fully registered but said they had anticipated registering it as a cooperative as they had obtained a letter from the Cooperative Commission which they used in opening a bank account for the club.
The letter designated the club as a ‘proposed club’ according to Ngcamphalala.
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